Father Pedro gives his opinion on the identity of Francis.
From "Caesar for Jesus Christ".
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Well, let's go to the million-dollar question that many have been waiting for so long, but which is still just another question. It is true that it is a strong question, but it is a question that the People of God have: -Do you recognize Francis as the true Pope?
-Well, if that is one more question, may God come and see. It is a very delicate question, it is a very compromising question. [unclear words] what I answer here is my opinion. It is neither the Gospel, nor the catechism nor the Blue Book. Although logically it is an opinion that has, so to speak, its source in all these sources. And well, it is therefore delicate. This can... I do not know how it will be, I know that I expose myself for this to the applause of some but to the condemnation of ninety-something percent. And then, well, what I answer, and if I am wrong, I wish that the love of my fellow Catholic believers would make me understand that I am wrong. But God knows that it is nothing against the Church, on the contrary. If I am here talking to you, it is for love of the Church. If it were for me, for my comfort, I would be dedicated to other things and I know that the answer I give can be very or little compromising. And compromise. But I say again: I appeal to the love and charity of all my brothers and sisters if I am wrong, but it is certainly not going against the Church. I am very clear about that. I think that from this respect it seems that many people that when a criticism is given to some pastor of the Church, it seems that it is throwing stones against one's own roof, and I see that it is not the style of the Bible. In the Bible God raises the prophets to throw stones against their own roof (according to this mentality). And Paul corrects Peter, and according to this mentality it would be throwing stones against the same roof, and I do not think so. And St. Catherine of Siena when she goes to Avignon to tell the Pope that he must change or that he must return is "throwing stones against one's own roof". Or else, for example, I think we are very confused there today. I think I once put this as an example, perhaps the greatest Catholic poet, considered by many to be the greatest Catholic poet, Dante, for he puts several Popes in hell. He never criticized the Church but he criticized the Popes. For one thing is one thing and another thing is another. We owe to all Popes a due respect, a due love, and we know the place they occupy, but we must not fall into papolatry, which is one of the sins we can also fall into. And that today could possibly arise.
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Is he Pope or not Pope? It is debatable, it is clear that for the vast majority he is. I would have to speak here a little longer. It is a question that to me, because of the influence of the Blue Book, because of what I told you before, that Freemasonry dominates the Church, that it has its center where the Vicar of His Son lives. Knowing that the vicar of His Son at the time was St. John Paul II and also St. Paul VI and that it spoke very well of both of them. The Blue Book puts St. Paul VI in Heaven and St. John Paul II as the Pope of Her choice. [if it is the book of Our Lady of the Roses SHE SAID, WHEN PAUL VI WAS STILL ALIVE, THAT THE NEXT ONE WAS ALREADY ELECTED, it is understood that the mob that was killing Paul VI, as they did not like John Paul I, poisoned him so that the one they wanted would come out. She has to say to JPII: son, do not hurry to destroy the Church of My Son, but tldm erased it and also Directive 7 and put a new directive praising JPII] It must be recognized then that Freemasonry dominated the Church... So what happened? I took it seriously and when he resigned... before Benedict XVI resigned, about a year before, when the vatileaks happened, which was that of the butler who discovered papers, etcetera. Well, for me I immediately translated it as a challenge given by Freemasonry to Benedict XVI. And just at that same time, or collateral to that same time, an Italian archbishop from China said that within a year Benedict XVI would be eliminated. That was the thing. Well, when Benedict XVI resigned, for me it was like saying, it is not true, it is not valid, because although he says he is free, deep down he is not free. And as I saw that Benedict XVI remained dressed as Pope and as I saw that he continued, so to speak, with the papal attire... there can only be one Pope, there cannot be several. So from the first moment, even before Francis was elected, I was convinced that whoever came, no matter what his name was or where he was from, he would not be valid. Because that was my personal conviction... if someone makes me understand in due time that I am wrong, I will be very grateful. And the events that followed were confirming me in that conviction.
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I remember when Francis was elected I was in Fatima and I did not even look until two or three days I did not know who he was because I was convinced of this that I have told you. And when I saw that Benedict XVI was still dressed the way he was dressed, they asked him why he did not dress differently and he answered that there were no black TexMex cassocks [a famous textile brand] and this confirmed what I had thought. When later one sees that the external things that one learns about go in the same direction, that is, that the Vatican, on the same day that Benedict XVI resigned, the Banco Ambrosiano, the Vatican Bank that was practically surrounded, that he had not [words unclear to me] that he had been forbidden. When I see that Francis had been elected in the fifth election and not in the fourth as it is mandated, there could not be more than four and well, this canonically does not go. Well, I read that Antonio Sochi's [I don't know if I spelled it right] Francesco came out immediately in Italian, I tried to have it translated into Spanish and it was not possible. Then I also read later books by a girl from Colombia: Pope Emeritus Benedict. In "varas y almendro" which is a youtuber from here in Spain, also reasons why it was not... that is: I started to read everything that came out in that field and they confirmed me in this suspicion. And then all the statements that started to come out I remember I was in Fatima when the statements in the newspaper La Republica, which is a Masonic newspaper and an anti-ecclesiastical newspaper. And later, for example, I also read things about the code... I had up to 160 studies of erroneous things about Francis. Then came out the Ratzinger Code of Adrian Sceltci [I do not write them well because they are foreign names] I mean, I have read several things about that and then that has been confirmed. Then, for example, things as enormous as Pachamama, like saying that a man like Luther, who has been the greatest heretic, who has done so much damage, not only to the Church but to Europe and to the world, condemned by so many Popes and so many Saints, and that they put him as a witness is impossible. - From the Gospel. -From the Gospel, and how "reading it will do us a lot of good", a series of things that one says: it is impossible. Or that we obey the UN, when we know that the UN is what it is and that it is not Catholic at all and very anti-Catholic: the main promoter of abortion, the main promoter of lgtb, the main promoter of so many things that go against the Gospel, if we have to obey those before... it is impossible. The whole 2030 agenda which is pure poison and taking it to the first thing. I mean we could multiply the sayings enormously. Or as I said before, to prohibit the Mass of the Vetus Ordo which is forbidden by him when Pius when St. Pius V said that whoever does that he will pay for it. The synod of the family as it was conducted, the questions that were asked, as if it was democratic to decide on the 10 Commandments. The synod of synodality, in short, an endless number of things that is not one or two or three have been confirming to me that to obey Francis is to disobey all the previous Popes. So it is not possible, we have a situation where I would rather make a mistake obeying two hundred and sixty-five Popes than obeying one who is Pope and possibly is not, for me he is not, but even supposing he is, with all these questions he has lost all his authority, so to speak, with respect to leading in the Faith. Because in the end the Papacy goes far beyond the persons of the Popes, it is the Chair of Peter, and the Chair of Peter encompasses all the Popes, not just one. To confirm your brothers in the Faith, it has no other mission. And when they asked him for the Dubia, he did not answer. The only thing he was supposed to do, he did not do, which is to confirm the brethren in the faith. So I am convinced that today he is being more of a demolisher of the faith than a builder of the faith.
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And I am very sorry to have to say this, because it affects me personally, with what I am saying I not only gain nothing, I lose a lot, but I believe that in conscience I cannot say anything else. I do not deny obedience to the Pope, I do not deny the Papacy, on the contrary, I know that it is a fundamental figure of the Catholic Church, but I understand that at this time the Catholic Church lacks a fact, which the catechism says: Apostolicity. The catechism tells us that the Church is apostolic for three reasons: For its origin on the Apostles. For its continuity of the Apostles in the present hierarchy and because the doctrine is apostolic. And today, unfortunately, the doctrine is not apostolic. It is not apostolic. No matter if we compare it with the texts of Vatican II, with all the magisterial texts of John Paul II, of Benedict XVI, of the previous ones... the doctrine is not apostolic, and of course, this is a major issue. And what amazes me most, I have to say, is the silence of 5400 bishops in the face of all this.
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In the Blue Book the Virgin whom She corrects the most and who says that deep down is the cause of the loss of faith is the dumb shepherds. Not bad shepherds or selfish shepherds. No, no, cowardly shepherds, dumb shepherds who do not defend the truth and do not defend the Faith. And the Truth must be defended as St. Athanasius did. For me it is an example that is very valuable. St. Athanasius, he alone and St. Hilary and few more... because there were more than 1000 bishops at that time and all of them were Arians, and Pope Liberius was more with the Arians than with St. Athanasius. And he had to suffer being told everything: that he was breaking the unity of the Church, that he was an arrogant man, that "what did he think he was"... they had him for 18 years... 5 times they expelled him from his diocese... And well, it turns out that the one who seemed to be the heretic saved the Faith of the Church. And today we have him as one of the Holy Fathers of the Church. And if you and I are Catholics today it is because of the courage of St. Athanasius who stood up to Pope Liberius and all his fellow bishops.
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So this is a very delicate situation, in all this it helps me a lot to see the Blue Book. Being attentive in this sense to everything that was written on this subject and I see that everything has gone in the same direction and so I continue at this time to pray more than ever for the Holy Church. Then Our Lady foresees all this in the Blue Book. Because it is curious that in the 70's ... 73, 75... Our Lady tells us two things that caught my attention because She says that in these times of confusion She herself will guide us, when Our Lady knows that what has to guide us is the magisterium, and at another moment She even says that She Herself will tell us whom we have to follow so that we do not lose the Faith, which She is foreseeing is a situation of confusion like never before. And She says more: She tells us that everything She is saying will be fulfilled in our time. And of course, for our time She tells us that the Secret of Fatima affects the Church in three things: apostasy, schism and that the man of iniquity, the man of iniquity will sit on the throne of Peter. One begins to match all these data, these coincidences and says God of my life, it is not just one or two or three data, it is all of them! Practically all those that lead you to say: we are in this sense, in the fact that someone who has sat in the place of Peter, instead of confirming in the faith, what he confirms is in error and leads the Church to lose its identity which is to confirm in the Faith. And this man calls proselytism to follow the command of Jesus which is to go throughout the world to preach the Gospel, what the apostles did preaching first to the Jews, now we are told that this is already proselytism, in short. A number of errors that one prefers to say: I prefer to make mistakes following 265 Popes, 20 Councils, hundreds of saints who have gone for the Faith, the Blue Book that for me is a very particular book where it tells you what is going to happen, what is happening and how to resist all that [it seems to me that he is talking about the Blue Book of Our Lady of the Roses]. And well, brothers and sisters, this is what we have. I pray for me, I ask that we all pray for the Holy Church of Jesus and that the Mother of the Church, Our Lady, enlighten us all. This is a moment of darkness like never before. Our Lady tells us continually in the Blue Book. It is a moment of enormous confusion. I am friend with many priests who do believe that Francis is true and that he is good for the Church. I disagree, but we still love each other and we still consider ourselves Catholics. And in this sense, we have also had Saints that some believed that the true Pope was one... at another time in history there were up to 3 Popes and they are Saints [he refers to the fact that there were Saints following one or another alleged Pope]. So let us ask for a lot of light. I am ready to receive all the corrections as long as they are adjusted to the Faith of the Church, to the Holy Tradition, to the Apostolic Doctrine.
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- Well, thank you very much Don Pedro for your courage, for your gallantry... -Pray a lot for me because this is going to cost me my head but God be blessed. Do you remember César that when we started I told you: [He says it in Latin] "those who are going to die greet you". But I do it, God knows, out of true love for the Church. God knows that what I am saying goes against me. I know that it may scandalize some, but in conscience I do it and so I have to say this. I have been asking the Lord every day for many years: Lord give me the strength to always be faithful to You Lord Jesus, faithful to Your Holy Gospel, to the whole Gospel and to Your Holy and True Church. At some point in my life I felt that God was asking my life for that Church and as I have told you before, I owe the Church not my life, but 1000 lives. To the true Church of Christ and for a thousand lives that I would give for her it would be insufficient. Therefore, God knows well that what I am saying only wants to be love for the true Church of Christ. Ask for me and I ask for you and may the Lord keep us faithful to this triple fidelity. -A very interesting question says: Blessings and thanks to God and to you for the wonderful work you do, thank you. In the Blue Book, The Mother insists in repeated messages on our obedience to the Pope. In this moment of so much confusion in the Church... what or how should our action or position be regarding this? Thank you, may God strengthen us in the truth of its doctrine. Amen.
- Yes, yes, absolutely, in this sense Our Lady... but there is this detail: at a certain moment that Father Gobi also says in the prologue, Our Lady says a detail that is very curious, she says: today, whoever is not with the Pope, today he is not needed. Normally it is always the one who is not with the Pope and I agree that we have to be with the Pope and it is general, we also know that there have been Popes who have been... but I would say more, so as not to make a mistake, rather "with the Papacy", that is to say: And on Peter I will build my Church. The Papacy is not only aeroliths independent of each other. A Pope cannot say the opposite in matters of Faith and morals of what another Pope has said because that would be to deny his own authority and it is very clear. Who can deny what we said before about St. Pius V? Who can say the opposite? It would be to disavow himself that "if I disavow a Pope" he is disavowing himself. It is very clear. So in this sense we should distinguish not only in the Popes, but also in the bishops and priests, between the figure of the Pope and the person of the Pope. I tell you that Dante distinguished it perfectly and did not mind putting several Popes in hell. One thing is the person of the Pope and another is .... So if the present Pope tells me things contrary to what 265 Popes have told me: one of two things: either they are wrong or he is wrong, supposing he were Pope. Let us even accept that he is Pope. But if he tells me otherwise, who do I follow? Don't you see that then we have to follow the figure of the Pope for what he is. The First Vatican Council, where it says that he is infallible, it is very clear when he is infallible. Then to the Pope, as the catechism tells us: due respect, due love. Here in this case we first doubt that he is Pope. I am convinced that he is not. But when he is, and I do not mind being wrong in that sense, I cannot follow the things he says because they are contrary to what 265 Popes have said.
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- Well, Don Pedro. We are going to leave it here, I think there is another little question but I think that already... well we can talk about those priests that are in communion with Jorge Mario Bergoglio... what happens with them, if you understand that they honor the Lord, that they like him... that kind of thing, but well it is like drawing all the consequences that can come from this.
- I think that in this we can apply what I said before about sects and all this. I know many good priests, intelligent priests who are convinced that Francis is Pope and that we have to obey him. So I understand this situation and may the Lord give us all wisdom and light, because we cannot condemn many of them, they are convinced that they are in the truth, they even believe that we are the ones who are breaking the unity. In this sense it is necessary to have a deeper understanding and to say "Holy Spirit enlighten us" because we are all in a very confusing cultural, religious, philosophical environment. So knowing how to divide is very difficult. There are others who may be there... it is like everything in life. There is everything. Like the Apostles: John was there, Peter denied Him, and the others fled. The same thing happens here. There are priests who are convinced that it is true and still think that [what I do] is wrong and that it is going against the Papacy and that it is throwing stones against one's own roof. I think it is a concept that is not valid and that was the concept that many bishops did not denounce homosexuality, pederasty when it seemed that it was throwing stones against one's own roof? And what has been discovered and what has been proven is that throwing stones against one's own roof is not denouncing them when they should have been denounced. And in this case it is absolutely the same. I think it is a false principle to have the rule of the lesser evil. I believe that there are things in these principles that if they are not well delimited in the end the lesser evil becomes "the end justifies the means", which is condemned by the Church and we are there in an ambiguous language.
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There are other priests who see things but do not dare to denounce them because their experience is that all those who have denounced them have been put aside, condemned... and these are... things that have never happened [before]. And I remember in Benedict's time, how many people have criticized things of Benedict or John Paul II and nothing happened. Now it seems that criticizing the most minimal.... how am I going to accept [the change] that the Church has applauded numerous families.... To accept that "women cannot have children like rabbits"? Well, just that expression... or cursing or that the Church has to apologize for the Evangelization of America? Where is this going? We can cite a lot of things and one says "there are some who still do not see it". Well, there are others who seeing it are possibly responsible because they are now accepting a doctrine that before they condemned it. And unfortunately within the Church many religious, many priests or many bishops, things that before they condemned, now they are silent. And you say, how can this be? God will call them to account, because they are cowards. So now it is very difficult to distinguish between the priest who is of good will, the one who is cowardly, the one who is fearful, the one who... it is very difficult. So let's have a little "love and truth" together. Let us not judge the person, let us judge his deeds or let us judge the things or let us judge the reasons that are given... but let us not condemn because there then we can be wrong.
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-The same as you said before with the Protestant sects. -The same, the same. -She [pointing to a statue of the Virgin] is Mother of all, also of those who believe that the Pope is Bergoglio... She is also their Mother, isn't She? -Yes, yes. -Or just as we said before that the crime of schism cannot be applied to those who are in schism in good faith. Well, it cannot be applied to them too, can it? -Yes, yes. -What you were saying, that the Catholic should not have children like rabbits... or that the Church should ask for forgiveness for the Evangelization of America, Francis said it. -Yes, yes. -Yes, like so many things... -I am saying this for those who do not know. Because we take so many things for granted. Anyway, brothers and sisters, let's leave the video until here and nothing more for my part Don Pedro, I would ask for your blessing .... -Well, I really ask for much prayer for me. If there is something that I have very present, even having said all these things ... that I would also like to die like St. Teresa who said: at last I die daughter of the Daughter of the Church. Of this amazing mystery that is the Church because it is the Body of Christ. It is soon said Body of Christ. Or that it is the beloved Bride of Christ... You say: "Mother of my life, what a mystery I am in" and that I am part of that mystery. And you say: My God of my life, this is a marvel, give me Holy Spirit the Light to understand how fortunate I am to have this Faith. I believe in God, I believe in Jesus Christ, I believe in the Father, I believe in the Son, I believe in the Holy Spirit and in the Holy Catholic Church. A Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church. I consider it a true miracle from Heaven and I would like to live and die in that Holy Church that has been my Spiritual Mother through Baptism, that has given me Jesus Christ in the Eucharist... so many things that as I have told you before, no matter how much I give her it will never be enough. That is why I ask you this prayer so that I may always die alive and die a son of the Church, for the Church of Christ in the Church of Christ. Thank you