RELIGION - 5th COURSE - THE CATHOLIC MORAL - Ed. Luis Vives.
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EIGHTH COMMANDMENT (CONT.) LESSON 25
FAME AND DEFAMATION
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294. What the eighth Commandment forbids: In addition to lying and its cognates, the eighth commandment forbids directly and primarily false witness, and indirectly and secondarily that the fame and honor of one's neighbor be damaged, which is done by detraction or defamation and contumely.
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[One thing is not to lie and not to bear false witness, that is: not to say false things, and it is quite another thing (which does not come out of the 8th Commandment) not to denounce the evil that others do].
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God, provident, zealous for the good of man, was not glad enough with safeguarding man material goods, by means of the seventh Commandment; he also placed a special precept - the eighth - so that his natural spiritual goods be respected: fame and honor, of much greater value than material goods.
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[One thing it is to have spiritual goods and a very different thing to be a whited sepulcher, or a wolf in sheep's clothing, those that do not have spiritual goods, but darkness and demons. Therefore they must be exposed so that they do not harm others. He who leads those snakes never sleeps and always goes for more].
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295. Fame and honor: Fame or reputation is "the good opinion someone has of a person's life and habits". It is also called good name, good esteem.
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[Generally vipers empower themselves in group, when only one of them enters in a group, he is quiet and only observes; when more false sheep enter, they praise each other and promote false good opinions of their leaders, they are all infiltrators. As the true prophets spoke against the false prophets, evil kings and sins of the people; and then Jesus Christ, God made Man, gave us a perfect example, so we must follow in the line of those who do not tolerate liars and denounce them so that they do not mislead the little ones].
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Honor is the outward expression or manifestation of the esteem in which we hold another person, because of his good qualities. Thus, reputation is the concept that we form of a person and honor, the external manifestation of our esteem.
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[The Tabernacle has been relegated to a side chapel and anyone touches Him nowadays, no longer caring if particles of His Body fall on the floor. As you will see, the Blessed Virgin warned us in time of everything, the few who obey Our Lady of the Roses, are saved, we must go over that narrow bridge that Heaven points out to us in the dream of St. John Bosco: "a walk to paradise", it is difficult to be in the Church with a majority of satanists in the hierarchy and in the "faithful", so, protect yourselves by using the Sacramentals and obeying Our Lady of the Roses.
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First Message of Our Lady of Garabandal
-October 18, 1961
We must make many sacrifices, perform much penance and visit the Blessed Sacrament frequently. But first we must lead good lives . If we do not, a chastisement will befall us. The cup is already filling up, and if we do not change, a very great chastisement will come upon us.
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Second message:
-June 18, 1965
Our Lady said "It is very sad to Me to tell you this, but I have to tell you this for your good", for this reason it was the Archangel Michael who said the Message to Conchita on June 18, 1965.
The message that the Blessed Virgin has given to the world through the intercession of St. Michael.
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The Angel said:
As my message of October 18 has not been complied with and has not been made known much to the world, I will tell you that this is the last one.
Before, the cup was filling up, now it is overflowing.
The Cardinals, Bishops and Priests go many on the road to perdition and with them they lead many more souls.
The Eucharist is given less and less importance.
You must avoid the wrath of God upon you with your efforts.
If you ask His forgiveness with a sincere soul, He will forgive you.
I, your Mother, through the intercession of the Angel St. Michael, want to tell you to make amends.
You are already in the last warnings.
I love you very much and I do not want your condemnation.
Ask Us sincerely and We will give it to you.
You should sacrifice yourselves more, think of the Passion of Jesus].
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296. Their excellence and necessity. Good fame and honor are goods as much or more inestimable than life. Sacred Scripture is full of praise for the value of such precious treasures: "A good name is worth more than riches" (Prov. XXII, 1). "Better is a good name than fragrant ointment" (Eccles., VII, 1). "Take more care of your name, which endures, than of thousands of treasures" (Eccl. XLI, 15).
A good name is the best blazon of a person.
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Good reputation and honor are necessary to live in society, to lead a happy life, to enjoy credit and prestige, to exercise a profession worthily, and even to lead a virtuous and Christian life.
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[I would be the last drop if someone says: “do not denounce me, because I would not be able to lead a virtuous and Christian life”, gangrene must be taken out of the body. Now there are so many who want to commit suicide, so many who are not happy, because the ideology of the devil prevails in society: "it does not matter whether they talk badly or well about sth., as long as they talk", so almost everyone seeks fame through public scandals, misleading others to the way of darkness, and unfortunately, they have many sepulchers who work for them. And "they have cast out truth". Most of people do not know the Way of Life and raise their children in atrocities worse than what they have lived through].
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From the foregoing it follows that every man has the right to preserve his good name, so long as he does not lose it by public and certain deeds, and to be paid the honor he deserves. This is manifested by the ordinary forms of civility and courtesy, the words and expressions used in treatment, such as sir, reverence, excellence, etc.; by the usual signs or deeds, such as uncovering [the head, it is that men used to wear a hat or cap, but for example, regarding cult, women show reverence by covering their heads when praying or being in a church], rising, kneeling, kissing the hand, etc.
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[It was made clear: he has the right to keep his good reputation “AS LONG AS HE DOES NOT LOSE IT BY PUBLIC AND CERTAIN DEEDS”. And it may be added, any mortal sin that a person does, public or not. He must first be warned to convert himself and if not, it must be publicly divulged, since he becomes a carrier of demons and will work, whether he knows it or not, for the devil. We know of many personal sins that God made public in the Old Testament (the murder of Naboth, David's adultery, Hezekiah's nonsense in showing the treasures of his palace to the foreign envoy, and they were made public for repentance and as a lesson for others...). And Sapphira and her husband, God killed them for a sin that was not public knowledge. And Jesus spoke to the people openly against what the scribes and Pharisees were doing.
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Read the Holy Gospel of Jesus Christ according to Saint Matthew 23, 1-3.
And also Saint Matthew 24, 10-13.
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Satan and his followers are scandalizing children at schools by gender ideology, by decree. And www.tldm.org changes the messages of Our Lady of the Roses Who said we must beware of the prophet who will arise in Australia, who is false. Tdlm changed it to the opposite. And infiltrators are changing the words of the Bible. And returning to the subject of scandal.... Scandal means giving a bad example. God always set a good example by denouncing sins since Adam and Eve, Cain, the people before the Universal Flood, Sodom, the bad behavior of the people... and showing how He punished them. TO DO THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT GOD SHOWS US IS TO GIVE SCANDAL. To cover up for a wolf so that he may continue to do harm is to set a bad example. The Church in its Holy tradition always cast out heretics and apostates, that is to give good example. If we cover up for them, we become an accomplice. Satanists have the war lost forever. The Church is the Mystical Body of Jesus Christ and He denounces and chastises, you already have a good idea, but in the end it will be made very clear who belong to the Church and who are accomplices of the father of lies. We have to speak up clearly, no violence in the Church, but weeds spread because we have been kidnapped/killed, or we have received zero catechesis, any lgtbi that is reprimanded says: “violence was made to me”. And it turns out that the devil has idiotized many by silencing those who know and had to teach and dennounce, because they were cowards.]
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297. False testimony: It is false testimony to bear false witness in a trial, that is, to swear an oath to tell a lie against one's neighbor in court, after having promised or sworn to tell the truth. The vulgar, unduly, also gives this name to slander.
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[Be careful because for us, any person that is near us, is our neighbor even if we do not know him, but snakes have a much more restricted definition of neighbor. Besides, we must always say the truth, having promised to do that or not. But we are not obliged to say all the truth unless an injustice is made. Not to lie.]
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The false witness commits three sins, because he sins against the truth, against the virtue of religion by breaking his oath, and against justice or charity, because he inflicts harm on his neighbor.
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[Did you notice how snakes twist language to twist law? Oath means: solemn promise, the meaning we use here, but in the dictionary we also find other meanings: swear word, and curse]
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False witnesses were, for example, those who testified before the tribunal against the chaste Susanna or against Jesus Christ.
False testimony is one of the most abhorred things by the Lord, for although He is the Supreme Truth, He is taken [in that false testimony] as a witness to a lie.
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298. Sins of defamation: Sins of defamation are all those which injure the good name and honor of others. There are two general kinds of defamation: detraction and contumely. The first injures the reputation and the second, the honor. They are all external sins.
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299. Detraction and slander: Detraction is the unjust defamation of an absent person. The good reputation of a neighbor can be taken away in many ways. They can be reduced to two principal species: slander and murmuring.
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Slander consists in attributing to another person the defects that he does not have or faults and bad actions that he has not committed; or also in exaggerating his faults and defects. This is called by the vulgar “to raise false testimony”.
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If the slander is made in a trial, that is, before a court of justice, then it is properly so called false testimony, more serious than simple slander because perjury is added.
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The twisted interpretation of the good deeds of a neighbor is also slander, as if it were said: this one does such a thing out of vanity.
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Slander is a grave sin against justice and is never allowed; its gravity can be attenuated by reason of the matter when it is slight.
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[I the next point I highlight words putting them in upper case, in case someone needs help to understand].
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300. THE MURMURATION: ITS KINDS: Vulgarly it is understood that murmuring is all conversation that deals with defects or certain faults of the neighbor. In this, several cases must be distinguished:
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[note that the original murmuring in the desert was about IMAGINARY "faults" against God, that is murmuring: attributing intentions to the other that the other does not have, but yet, even with the definition given in this point, you will understand that what I have been doing is right].
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1º that the defect, fault or crime that is being talked about is public and known to those who are talking;
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2º that the fault of another be discovered to someone who does not know it, when it is already public and very notorious;
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3º to announce a crime committed publicly and condemned by the court;
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4º to refer faults or sins of persons known or unknown to the listeners, without naming them, and without them realizing who he is.
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THIS CAN BE LICIT IF IT IS DONE FOR THE TEACHING OF THOSE WHO LISTEN.
In none of these cases there is detraction, for we cannot take away the fame of those who have already lost it and have no right to it; those are cases of simple murmuring; but this way of speaking of one's neighbor is odious, abhorrent, and very worthy of reproof, for one always fails to be charitable, even if not seriously. IT WOULD BE ANOTHER THING IF WE WERE TO CRITICIZE OR HARSHLY CENSURE PUBLIC AND PROVOCATIVE FAULTS THAT SOMETIMES HAVE NO OTHER SANCTION OR PUNISHMENT THAN PUBLIC CENSURE, PRAISEWORTHY CENSURE!
The true murmuring, also called simple detraction, to distinguish it from slander, consists in discovering WITHOUT NECESSITY or WITHOUT JUST REASON, the sins or secret defects of one's neighbor.
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It is said without necessity or without just motive, because if there were reasonable cause, it would not only be licit to reveal the hidden defect or crime, but it could also be obligatory; for example, to reveal the PROJECT OF ATTACK AGAINST AN AUTHORITY OR HONORABLE PERSON; to discover a culprit or a criminal when the public or private good demands it."
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[Notice that the Church has been under attack for some time now. And any project to attack ANY HUMAN being must be denounced (or revealed).]
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301. Practical lesson: The vice of murmuring is most unpleasant. "Murmuring is as poisonous as a viper, and as cowardly as the hare. It seeks the ear like mosquitoes, and the shadow like bats. It springs from idleness, as from stagnant waters comes stinking mist." That is why those who are fond of gossip are among those who have nothing to do or do not want to do anything: the most useless beings for society.
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[A decent person clarified in point 300: “The true murmuring, also called simple detraction, to distinguish it from slander, consists in discovering WITHOUT NECESSITY or WITHOUT JUST REASON, the sins or secret defects of the neighbor.”
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And a just motive is to WARN ANOTHER SHEEP OF WHAT A HYPOCRITE DOES, to warn the sheep of a danger. The difference lies on the one hand, in those who amuse themselves talking about bad things and do not teach the Good Way, they do not say that evil is condemned by such and such teachings of God, and on the other in those who follow the Way of God, denouncing the evildoer to the authorities and if there is no solution because those authorities are not worthy, alerting others.
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Mothers should warn their children if a member of the family is an airhead (not to keep silent for the "peace" of comfortable cowardice), so that the children do not take that person as an example. But from experience I know that it is not enough to tell them that that person is not good, parents HAVE TO TELL CHILDREN clearly (without dirtying their minds) that that person did such a thing or said such another and WHY THAT IS WRONG ACCORDING TO GOD'S LAW. If the foundation of the Teaching of the Word is not there, it is to build without foundation].
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Every murmurer is evil: for he cannot have a good name who harms the reputation of others.
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[And here is where the vipers take hold, when someone says something to them, denouncing sth. to their face, they immediately accuse their interlocutor of the same thing, without basis, fanatics... because they falsely believe that they are perfect, the elect and the superior and almost deserving "veneration". And, being satanists, pagans, they believe that if they accuse us of what they are, the sin falls on us and they become “clean”.]
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Every murmurer is vile, because he amuses himself commenting on iniquities, as a beetle in stirring up filth.
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[They should not say "every murmurer" but "he who makes true murmuring or simple detraction".]
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Every murmurer is a coward: because he does not say to the face of the victim what he whispers in absentia.
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[I am not justifying to say faults of another without just cause, I am simply saying that the reasoning of the above line is not valid. Sometimes you can't tell THE TRUTH to the face of another and you seek consensus to take action. I don’t justify wolves who hunt in groups. There is no problem in telling things to decent people to their face, as long as those are true, better secretly the first time, or others may take advantage to create enmity].
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Every murmurer is an imbecile: because he tells others not to tell anyone what he himself is telling them.
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[I do not justify telling faults of another without just cause, I simply say that the reasoning of the above line is not valid. In point 293 of the previous lesson they had written: "The promised secret obligates by fidelity to the given word and according to the intention that was had when giving it". So intentions are fundamental. If it is to prevent a wolf in disguise of sheep from doing harm, we can spread an alert of his activities and ask for the necessary secrets].
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Every murmurer is a thief; for he robs others of their fame, which is worth more than their property.
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[It is not justified to speak faults of another without just cause. If the fame of another is based on hypocrisy that tries to cover up sins against God or the neighbor, I think we must destroy that deceitful fame. Even though he may appear to be a good person, if that person lives in mortal sin, that person is an instrument of the devil, knowing it or not knowing it, or even thinking of himself that he has good intentions.
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Read Isaiah 5:20 . An individual who is vile cannot be considered honorable.
He who thinks that a cloak of "justification” can be put over a wicked interior is a Protestant and therefore: heretic, and also, satanic, because the devil wants us to call woman to a man, etc. that we equate Freedom to sin, love to "make love", the devil likes to disguise himself as an "angel of light" and intends to rule the Church, to achieve that, he wants us to accept that a mantle of justification can be placed on something/someone evil. And he has begun by pretending that we accept sacrileges and heresies in silence].
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Every murmurer is a slanderer: because by dint of spreading true defects of his neighbor, he manages to increase them and to invent defects and sins that do not exist, and he throws them out without feeling any remorse in his stiffened conscience. The only thing that interests him is to arouse curiosity, to cause a sensation..." (Messenger of the Heart of Jesus [note: this must be a sort of publication, but the viper writer uses the name of Jesus' Heart to try to legalize his attempt to invent/exaggerate sins that others did not. This is how vipers are empower themselves, one of them makes the stain and others try to legalize his attempt to invent/exaggerate sins that others did not. This is how the vipers try to “empower” themselves, one of them makes the stain and others spread it.]
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[Again: he who gloats in vain talk, will be judged. But if we spread true defects of someone teaching which is the Way to follow so that the hypocrite does not lead others astray (there are so many cases reported in the Bible...), we are doing the right thing.
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Regarding the following paragraph... take it with tongs because he that wrote so much so that we shut up, now slanders God].
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If you are in the business of whispering, you have no right to protest when they whisper about you. "With the same measure with which you measure, it will be measured to you" (St. Matthew VII, 2).
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[As usually they quote incomplete verses. In St. Matthew (7, 1-2) and St. Luke (6, 37-39) when it is spoken of the measure with which we will be measured, it is always immediately after paragraphs that speak of the reward that God gives (St. Matthew), and of God’s providence (St. Luke). I insist on that the Justice that God does, the measure He uses, it is in justice, He never allows the law of the jungle in which, if someone does a sin, others can do that sin to him because they are "like justified". Unjust judges will never be justified either, when they think that they will enter through a wide door of justification since they made it wide to criminals to avoid prison and continue committing crimes. The issue is that there are many who believe that they are "God's justice" and only badly hide their criminal desires.
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Job 34:12: "Surely God does not do evil, nor does the Almighty twist the right."
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Don't say, "God made me sin!" because He doesn't do what he hates. Don't say, "He made me make a mistake!" because He doesn't need a sinner. Yahweh hates evil, and so do those who fear Yahweh. Ecclesiasticus 15:11-13.
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It is clear that no one can claim to be a "righteous one" when, for example, he slanders the slanderer.
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God does not repay by sending things that are sin. He leaves the disobedient in the hands of their enemies and, if they do not convert, He then exacts justice on all. To Him belongs all life.
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It turns out that God never retributes with sin. God does not make sins. The rod with which we are measured means, for example, that if someone judged a good deed of another as if it were vanity, his good deeds will be measured as if they were vanity. God punishes in justice.
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Slanderers, thieves, sinners who harm others, they are simply dullards who will later be judged. I wrote all this to explain that most of the envious and wicked invent that they do "justice" against good people thinking of themselves to be "the justice of God".
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If someone is merciful to others, he will attain mercy. But it is no justification for what evil judges do, to favor the offender. For God hates the wicked, the hypocrite and loves justice and righteousness... The model of behavior for people should be God Made Man, Jesus Christ. He drove the sellers out of the Temple, because it cannot be tolerated that they desacralize His House. He denounced sins publicly, but in His teachings He gave all of them the way to conversion and salvation. He had mercy on the adulterous woman but told her not to sin anymore. Models are also the Saints, like St. John Bosco, who visited prisoners in jail to convert them and save them. Justice, and to convert them so that they may be saved, "that they may be men of good" comes as a consequence if someone has the basis of Faith and is faithful to Jesus Christ.
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Read the Holy Gospel of Jesus Christ according to St. Matthew 7:1.
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An organization of vipers that command judges not to do justice in order to pave the way for corruption thinking that in this way "they will not be judged by God" must realize that the measure they used was injustice, and that measure is the enemy of God. They will be judged as enemies. A phrase of these times is "they will have soup of their own chocolate".
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Example: Joseph in Egypt made Egyptians slaves of Pharaoh, he gave glory to Pharaoh and did not give glory to God, he did not tell them that from God came all the blessings of having had 7 previous good years and how to manage the reserves, so they ended up slaves of a Pharaoh who on top of that murdered them. Joseph did not give glory to God, God forgot (did not want to remember) them for 400 years. It is not that God commanded the children to be killed, neither that the Egyptians were then justified in making Hebrew slaves. No one is justified to do injustice, or wickedness. When God is betrayed, He leaves the sinner in the hands of his enemies. Tremble those who do not strive to be loyal to Jesus Christ (and they are not loyal to Him because they are not loyal even to the 10 Commandments) because His Justice is eternal and terrible and very exact, and few are saved].
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302. Cooperators of detraction: To simply hear a murmuring as a neutral party is not a sin; all the more if there is an internal reaction against it, when we cannot do otherwise.
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Cooperators to murmuring: 1st, those who effectively induce others to murmur or slander are formal cooperators, guilty of injustice and scandal; 2nd, those who listen to defamation with satisfaction and joy; those sin against charity; 3rd, those who, being able, do not prevent the detraction; if they are superiors, they sin against piety; particular persons are ordinarily excused, at least, from grave sin.
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[The viper writes “murmuring” in the title, and then mixes it with slander, defamation, detraction… he should have written “simple murmuring”]
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303. Contumely or affront: Any insult or unjust insult that is done to a person in his presence, while he is aware of it. Depending on the case, it is called derision, mockery or insult.
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Contumely directly attacks the honor and injures the rights of charity. It can be committed in two ways:
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1ª Positively, with words of contempt, insults, slander, with actions or gestures that put the other in ridicule.
2ª Negatively, denying him the honor due, omitting the ordinary attentions, as the greeting.
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It is not contumely to admonish another, as a father or mother does with his or her child, a superior with a subject, etc., especially if it is done with gentleness, prudence and Christian charity, nor are sins to make jokes and jocular contumely.
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[Read St. Matthew 12:36 and Saint Lk. 6:25].
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The sin of contumely is more or less grave, or less grave, according to the way and gravity of the insult, the dignity of he who insults and of the offended, and the number of persons who witness it. Jesus Christ said: "Whoever says to his brother a fatuous person shall be liable to the pains of hell" (St. Matthew V, 22). [As usually, they do not quote the entire verse, you have to read it in a good Bible]
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A grave sin of contumely was that of those youths who, seeing the prophet Elisha, on the road from Jericho to Bethel, began to taunt him and cover him with insults, saying: "Bald, bald! Come up, bald!" He turned to look at them and... at once, two bears came out of a neighboring forest and tore apart forty-two of those boys (2 Kings, II, 23-24). The sins of contumely, especially those committed against persons of holy character, are punished by God most severely, even in this life. The case of the prophet Elisha makes this clear].
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304. Malice of murmuring: Murmuring, or simple detraction, is a grave sin, though not always, by reason of the matter which its object is; it is also a sin against justice, because the victim still retains the right to fame.
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[There is no right to keep the fame if that person harms others or, when making a mortal sin, even if it is not publicly known, even if it was made by a leader. E.g. David's sin, passively killing Uriah and that of Bathsheba, was made public for all to know. And it is about none other than King David. Whited sepulchers, on the other hand, want to camouflage themselves like perfect before others].
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Sin does not change its kind because it refers to different matters, and thus in confession it is not necessary to name them, but only if there were several listeners and the quality of the offended.
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The gravity of murmuring is measured by the damage that the neighbor receives in his fame, which is a real theft, more important than that of money.
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This damage depends:
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1º On the gravity of the defect, sin or fault that is discovered.
[Does the infiltrated viper want to tell us that the greater the sin there should be more silence?, or the other way round, he does not say anything because he is not giving rules but trying to hide himself in a pharisaical way].
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2º On the quality of the murmurer; if he is an authority, a solvent person, a chatterbox, a liar, etc., and of the intention he has or moves him.
[Another obscure rule... if he is a liar, is he less guilty because it is his habit and he is considered as a chatterbox?... or is he more guilty because he adds more sins upon himself? Is an authority more guilty if he denounces a sin of another because not being able to make the evildoer face justice? Is a solvent person of more quality than another????? We already know what kind of personage has been writing the "rules" of this point.]
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3º On the quality of the defamed person: it is a bigger sin to speak bad of an authority than of anyone else. Thus, the manifestation of a venial sin can easily become a mortal sin, if it is a matter of religious or priests, because they are more dishonored than a layman.
[Look... infiltrators enter in the organization of the Church by corruption and end being "authorities" and then... we cannot denounce the sins they do... Here they say “to speak bad of”, “to speak bad” means to say lies against somebody, but they want the meaning of “hurting the fame of someone, even if he is an hypocrite evildoer”, what a way to build this civilization of corruption and censorship!!!! Censorship against the good (pro-life web pages, anyone who speaks against homosexuality… if I try to talk to someone about Our Lady of the Roses, Facebook deletes it... Facebook, bought partially by Soros, a Jew who works for the Rothchilds (Jews who control most of the politicians, kings, judges, banks, laboratories and food companies in the world)]. And furthermore, in the case of sins that can be dangerous to the soul or life of others, does the viper writer of this point pretend that if they are priests that sin is not to be denounced, so that the rotten fruits continue to multiply on the vine?].
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4º On the number of people who hear the murmuring.
[Censorship continues... if someone succeeds in warning many... the writer of this point considers that as bad.].
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5º On the effects and consequences of murmuring, since it is the source of many evils. From slander are born strife, distrust, divisions, hatreds, enmities, the ruin of families and the disruption of cities.
[More harm is done by satanic infiltrators. We have to be pacific but we have to speak loud and clear and obviously make sacrifice, and pray for the sinner to be converted. IT IS WHAT JESUS CHRIST DID].
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"The tongue of the murmurer," says St. Bernard, "is a three-edged sword; it simultaneously pierces three persons; he who was defamed by murmuring, he who listens, and the murmurer himself; it is a poisonous viper that at the same time poisons three souls."
[I suppose it was said by St. Bernard of Clairvaux, he is obviously referring to speaking idly of the sins of others. "St. Bernard of Clairvaux, in both monasteries, imposed the style that would soon spread to the whole Cistercian Order: discipline, austerity, prayer and simplicity. Such ideals confronted him with Peter the Venerable, abbot of Cluny, since they were a direct attack against the wealth of the monasteries, the pomp of the liturgy and the luxury of the Cluniac churches". And he succeeded.]
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305. Practical advice:
It is an advice of Saint Bernard: "If you cannot excuse an action of your neighbor, excuse at least the intention; you can suppose that he has acted out of ignorance, that he has been deceived, and that he has found himself in a difficult situation. If the fact appears so manifest as to exclude all doubt, endeavor to excuse yourself or excuse his fault, saying, "The temptation must have been very violent." What would have become of me if I had experienced it with the same force? And with that your conscience is cleansed and you deserve the indulgence of the Supreme Judge.
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[Let us speak of practical and real things: when someone commits a sin, we must warn him so that he corrects himself, otherwise we commit a sin of omission, and we must also pray for that person. What St. Bernard says is very similar to what St. Teresa of Avila says, but they speak in a context where there was discipline. There was a prison inside the convent where St. Teresa was, before reforming the order, for punishment of certain sins. In that context of discipline, I suppose that there would be some "little sins" that there was nothing left but to excuse them but never to be part of them, for example, St. Teresa wrote that many gathered to idly murmur about others, and she never entered into that and said that all knew that when she was present, "they had their backs covered" (she protected them from murmuring).
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But things must be clear and according to truth. Read Saint Matthew 18:15-17). And Deuteronomy 19:13.
Here there is not that excuse: "we are all friends and nothing happened" but: "LOOK AT HIM AS AT THE GENTILE AND THE PUBLICAN". We have to love our enemies and greet everyone, but the infiltrated weed MUST NOT TO BE TOLERATED, they lie, kill lives and souls, etc.
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In order to put an end to all murmuring and sin in the vine we must carry the truth and oppose the ones who make mortal sins. Not to swallow everything as if we were pigs. We have to talk about it with two or three people we trust and if they agree with our reasoning and EVIDENCE, we talk to the offender. And if he does not repent, expose the case to the Church.
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We cannot be so foolish as to tolerate all the weeds and get used to tolerate even heresy and scandal in the Church, like the frog that is heated little by little until it is boiled. Scandalous and heretics are against Jesus Christ and His Church and must be excommunicated.
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306. Obligation to restore fame and honor: The defamer and even the simple detractor have a strict obligation to restore the fame unjustly taken from his neighbor, even if he has died, and to compensate him for the damages caused and foreseen. This obligation is serious or slight, according to the cases. The same is said with respect to honor.
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[So much twisting to explain defamation, detraction, murmuring... everything is summed up in: "Thou shalt not bear false witness nor lie". And if you need to know the limit: gather evidence before denouncing. And above all, let it be for the edification of your neighbor, so that the Truth of God may shine forth.
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What some viper wanted to teach us in this chapter is to make us believe that we cannot say anything bad about what others do. THAT IS AGAINST THE TEACHING OF GOD. And the proof that the infiltrated vipers are more than 90% of the Church is evident in how they despise the Tabernacles, relegating them to a side chape;, how they Communicate in the hand and introduced the Advent crown as that used by “separated brethren”; the barbarities preached by the pseudo priests that abound so much; and how vipers behave at Mass, how they keep silent and praise an anti Pope (an idolatrous and heretic logically excommunicated by the Law of God)....; how no more than 200 persons oppose in each city against education in gender ideology... how the cities are empty, even before the Covid, because satanists have kidnapped and sold the people. "He who sows in furrows of iniquity, shall reap sevenfold" Old Testament. It is understood: sevenfold of pain, God does not return iniquity.
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Pure and Most Holy is Our Lady, and She clearly denounces evil for the good of all].
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The slanderer is obliged, moreover, to retract, manifesting the falsity of what he said, even if it is at the cost of his honor and good name, because it is just that the guilty and not the innocent has to pay. This retraction can be made by letters signed by him, if there were many who heard the slander, or by the press, if it concerns sacred persons or persons of high dignity.
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[Obvious, if falsehoods were said. Slander is to say things that are not true].
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Stolen fame is like water spilled on the ground. It is always very difficult to restore it, and sometimes it is impossible, but every possible thing must be done to repair it. The murmurer cannot deny himself, since what he said is true; he must, therefore, first of all, ask forgiveness, and then praise whatever good there is in the offended person, before those before whom he detracted him, and to honor him publicly, whenever he has occasion to do so.
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[What a wretched individual composed the above paragraph!!!!. He takes it for granted that the murmurer spoke the truth and ¡¡¡¡ HE SHOULD ASK FORGIVENESS FOR SPEAKING THE TRUTH!!!! … And praise whatever good there is in the offended party, whenever he has the occasion (¿the rest of his life?)!!!!! Do you see how vipers enter in the hierarchy and then tie us with injustice????
It turns out to be that if the offended made a mortal sin, he has nothing good in him. St. Francis of Assisi said that he who breaks one of the Commandments breaks them all. St. Teresa of Avila said that when a soul is in mortal sin, that soul is completely dark as if a light were covered by a very dark cloth....
And the individual in question pretends that the uncovered sinner should be praised for "the good" he has! He has nothing good!!!!! He that wrote this point wants the denounced sinner to be publicly praised and honored... because he was found to have a sin!!!!. Again, read Isaiah 5:20
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I had read in internet that in the past, if a Bishop was found to have committed a mortal sin, he ceased to be a Bishop. It is super logical. He cannot be a guide who is in darkness, he cannot defend the flock who is not even on the alert to defend his soul. Then, this was changed and the people had to accept bad bishops... and now, from so much accepting one little thing and then another, like fools... we arrived at what is happening now. But the infiltrated vipers and the world, and those who do not follow Our Lady of the Roses, they are in the last warnings. ]
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In justice, the contumelious must also restore the honor taken away. If the offended is a superior, he must ask forgiveness; if he is equal or inferior, he must, at least, give him special evidence of honor and benevolence. The reparation must be concealed if the offense was concealed, and public, if the insult was public.
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[In other words, if he is superior he is asked for forgiveness, and if he is equal or inferior, is he not asked for forgiveness???? If he is a Catholic, we must know that he is a child of God by adoption, by the grace of Baptism, and has equal dignity (regarding offences) like a "superior". And if he is not baptized, pardon must be asked of him in justice.
Homosexuals and other mortal sinners that want to impose their sins, would like to interpret wrongly “grace of Baptism”. When a mortal sin is done, the grace is lost, and the soul is in darkness, just the contrary of a baptized that remained faithful, and if someone insists on living in a mortal sin, that person must be excommunicated. Baptism is not an “identity card”.]
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307. Practical Lesson: What can the offended person do, what should he do? He who has been defamed or insulted can show outwardly, at first, his feelings, and he has the right to demand for redress. This is necessary in the case where the offense falls on the dignity and authority he represents.
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[If the offense is in our capacity as followers of God and we are told that we are of the devil, e.g., we must make it clear to the offender that he is a liar, because the offense would be against God. In the following paragraph we are told that we must "forgive generously and nobly the injury", but what Jesus Christ taught is that we forgive when we are asked for forgiveness. We love justice, and if we are defamed and we get not redress, we pray and do everything so that there is justice and the offender is converted. We earnestly try to follow the example of God made Man and trust in His laws and in the fact that He hears us, because God pays back.
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Read the Holy Gospel of Jesus Christ according to Saint Luke 18:7.
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Everything is achieved by carrying the cross. I remember in the biography of a holy monk, that a woman of that town got pregnant and lied saying that it had been that saint. People insulted him, threw things at him and mistreated him a lot, and the monk endured everything in silence. After some time, the woman, seeing how they mistreated him so much, repented and confessed the truth before everyone.
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Examine the Messages of Our Lady of the Roses.
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It seems that in this "Lesson 25. Eighth Commandment (continuation)" the wolves disguised as sheep, who twist God's law (and also the laws they invent) would like to put the big funnel for them all the time and the little one for us all the time: "ask forgiveness if something bad (and true) is said about them and do not complain if they pay you back with the same coin or even if they say lies about you, do not say anything bad about them because you would be stealing their (undeserved) fame, and in the following paragraph they put the word "have to" in italics, which would mean what? When they say: “as a good Christian he should generously and nobly forgive the insult...“ it would seem that the "should" in italics would be applied in one way or another depending on whether the offender or the "offended" is one of them].
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But as a simple individual and as a good Christian, he should generously and nobly forgive the insult, even if he does not receive redress and, from the beginning, he will put away from his heart all rancor and feelings of hatred and revenge, to fulfill the precept of the Lord: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you and pray for those who slander you (St. Luke, XI, 27-28). By doing so, he will deserve that God forgive him his own sins: Forgive and you will be forgiven.
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[The last paragraph seems more like one of those recommendations that vipers give when they are acting like self-righteous. May be they have this passage always at hand to recommend it, when someone wants justice. Here it does not say that we should not speak the truth, nor does it say that we should not make it shine.
We can and should defend ourselves against our enemies if they come into our country or our house. If they hate us, to make them see their error it is a way to do good to them. To bless those who curse us by wishing them conversion, and then health and good, is a marvel that brings even blessings upon us. Praying, and sacrificing ourselves for those who slander us (and all our enemies in general), so that they may be converted is the best good we can do them and it does not detract from denouncing their bad doctrines, intentions and works.]